Interview With the Fabulous John Crye by Robin Gregory
I first met John Crye through a media company in Los Angeles. He has deep roots in theater and film, which covers experience as a writer, producer, actor, and director. For more than a decade, John was Creative Director of Newmarket Films, working in the development, acquisition, production, and distribution of such independent classics as Whale Rider, Memento, Donnie Darko, Monster, and The Prestige. A founding member of the filmmaker’s collective, Fewdio, John produced The Nightmare House web series, and also wrote and directed several episodes. He helped launch Wrekin Hill Entertainment, with whom he acquired and released such films as Peter Weir’s The Way Back and Hesher, starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Since 2011, John has been producing and directing under his own banner, SharpCrye. Chance, the latest project, is a Family Drama based on a true story, starring Matthew Modine. They are in post-production now and planning a film festival run. He is also publishing an online serialized Fantasy Adventure novel entitled, The Elect Stories. His new company, True Development, offers coaching and editing services to screenwriters.
Having worked with John on two projects, I know firsthand that he is multi-talented, possesses several lifetimes worth of knowledge and experience, and is a highly skilled mentor. I am thrilled that he agreed to do the following interview: ROBIN: Would I be correct in saying that visionary films are taking center stage? I’m thinking of The Shape of Water, Black Panther, and Dunkirk specifically. In the broadest terms, they seem to share roots in mythology, and they explore social or personal evolution (devolution). Is there something more that you, as a filmmaker would say about this? JOHN: I think that cinema progresses through cycles like everything else. I agree that we are seeing a spate of films right now that share a sensibility, a reaction to the “make or break” times we are living in. Many of us are feeling like we are living through times that will either be the end of society, perhaps of humanity, or a bold new beginning. Artists are feeling those same things and expressing them. I’m happy to see that so many of these reactions are hopeful.
ROBIN: What does it mean to “develop” a film project? Film studios used to do this, right? JOHN: Development is just the Hollywood term for the process that all writers engage in: nurturing a story idea, exploring its potentials, and then crafting the language that expresses the story best for the given format. The important difference is that development is always done with at least one source of feedback, whether an editor, producer or executive. As with most film industry conventions, development started in the studios, back in the days when an entire staff of screenwriters were kept under contract to meet the high production demand. By the heady days of the mid-1990’s, development had become a boondoggle, a vaguely defined line item where outrageous wastes of money could be hidden or excused away. Development’s value as a refining tool for the writer, and as protection for the producer, was diminished to the point that it has become little more than a trite curse: “development hell.” ROBIN: You were with Newmarket Films when they acquired rights to Whale Rider (2003). For those who haven’t seen it, I wholeheartedly recommend it! It’s the story of a young girl whose destiny as a leader clashes with a Maori chief who holds that males only can ascend to chiefdom. What intrigued you about the story? JOHN: I think almost everyone has experienced the pain of rejection or of being an outsider at some point in their lives. I have. If you haven’t felt it, perhaps you’ve feared it. The girl in the story, Pai, wants nothing more than the love of her grandfather, and the yearning that Keisha Castle-Hughes expresses in her performance is so palpable that I ached watching it. I do every time.
ROBIN: Apart from writing novels that distinguish themselves, how can authors best develop stories that adapt to film? JOHN: Well, those may be two different animals entirely. Writing a distinguished novel is the finest goal a novelist can set for herself. Developing stories that adapt to film, on the other hand, requires stepping away from some of the elements and techniques that might otherwise make for a distinguishing novel. The stories that work best for developing into screenplays tend to follow those same rules that Aristotle set out in his Poetics, namely the unities of action, place and time. Intrinsic dramatic values like tension and suspension of disbelief are more effective in these confines. Cinematic stories tend to be plot-driven, as well, since the audience witnesses the characters actions without being privy to inner monologue. In other words, stories where one or a few characters take clear actions that affect a dramatic change within a limited time frame. ROBIN: In your recent newsletter, you referred to yourself as a “personal trainer for writers.” Would you like to say more about that? JOHN: Procrastination, negative self-talk, undisciplined work habits… these things destroy a writer’s productivity and, ultimately, their creativity. More than simply being an editor or story analyst, I act as a coach, helping the writer develop better habits and improve their skills. ROBIN: Do you work with unpublished writers? JOHN: I do! While many of my clients are professional screenwriters who need a coach to keep them hustling and on their game, I also work with new writers. My True Development service can function as a one-on-one screenwriting course. I walk the client through the process from concept to finished first draft using the same methods that I have honed over the past 23 years in independent film.
ROBIN: Can you name a few deal breakers? Qualities in a story that will guarantee a quick “pass” on a producer’s part? JOHN: That somewhat depends on the company or producer. For instance, most of the films that I acquired, developed or produced for Newmarket were passed on by other companies at some point. I was trying to think of a story element that would be a no-go across the board and I honestly can’t think of one. Successful films have been produced from the least likely stories. All I can say is take the time to research who you are submitting your work to and ensure that your material is a good fit for what they do. (And be honest with yourself about that.) The collaborative nature of film is the double-edged sword that invigorates some and infuriates others. It is important to remember that the screenplay is not a finished work, it is a blueprint for a work to be created by a team of other artists. This is not to diminish the screenwriter’s value. No good thing can be constructed from a faulty plan and, indeed, the structural elegance and the power of the dialogue is often what we respond to as audience and those things are the purview of the screenwriter. ROBIN: Say a producer, director, or studio shows interest in your adaptation. What happens next? JOHN: Let the negotiations begin! Hopefully, they are coming to you or your reps with an offer. ROBIN: What do screenwriters generally get paid? JOHN: The WGA minimum for an original screenplay is (at the time of this interview) $71,236, or roughly 1.4% of the budget on a film of around $5M. Non-WGA writers get significantly less, and “star” writers negotiate for more. ROBIN: Must writers have an agent or talent manager in order to sell a screenplay? JOHN: No, though the writer will want someone skilled to handle negotiations on their behalf.
ROBIN: What do authors do if they want someone else to adapt their novel? JOHN: The first step is to think very closely about what kind of movie you’d want your adapted novel to be, or at least to identify those kinds of movies you don’t want it to be. The second step is to discuss the story with a few screenwriters until you find one whose vision of the adaptation matches your own (which is why you need to do some envisioning of your own first.) Work closely with the screenwriter on a scene-by-scene treatment, so you can assure that you are on the same page before they go to draft. If you don’t know any screenwriters personally, try contacting the local film commission of your nearest large city. They should be able to provide some guidance, if not an actual list of writers in the area. You can also try the writing or film departments of a local college or university. Failing that, head to a Starbucks and look for someone working on a laptop with a Star Wars decal on it. (Kidding.) (Also, not really kidding.) ROBIN: Can you recommend an app for screenwriting? JOHN: I’m a big fan of Final Draft, which is industry standard. Movie Magic Screenwriter is also used a lot because it interfaces easily with budgeting software. You’ll want to work in a commonly used program so you can collaborate. Film, after all, is a collaborative artform.*
Contact John Crye: Website: http://www.truedev.sharpcrye.com/ Twitter: @JohnCrye Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.crye1?ref=br_rs
Very interesting, Robin. Sounds like a lot of work and a whole new way of looking at one’s work. I like that John includes, “Cinematic stories tend to be plot-driven, as well, since the audience witnesses the characters actions without being privy to inner monologue. In other words, stories where one or a few characters take clear actions that affect a dramatic change within a limited time frame.” This explains why some books simply don’t convert well into theater and film, including the work of some of my favorite authors.
A quote that grabbed me also. One of the reasons I switched early on from stage/film writing to the novel: for better or worse, I had to express what was going on in the characters head. John nailed the differentiation–nice.
Thank you, Victor. It’s good also to remember that good screenwriters make characters say and do things that reveal what is going on in their heads.
Isn’t that the truth! It’s an entirely different morphology. Thanks for the interesting comment, Margaret.
Robin, John is quite interesting and he offered up a lot of good advice. I particularly liked the suggestions he gave for finding and working with a screenwriter if you want your novel adapted to film. Thank you!
You are so welcome, Jodine. I’m so glad you found the post helpful. All the best with your ongoing projects!
Thanks, Robin, for sharing John’s experience and wisdom with us. I can see how film can and does make VF concepts available to many moderns who might not otherwise be exposed to them (due to aversion to reading among other things). I, for one, doubt that I can be proficient in both art forms at the same time, so I’ll stick to the novel, but I enjoy the idea of a crew of people rendering a novel of mine into film while I sit on the sidelines. Hmm.
You’re welcome, dear Victor. I understand your preference for novel writing! And, you may be right, being proficient in both mediums is uncommon. I wish you the best with your projects, and hope you have the experience of adapting one day. It’s wonderful to be part of a creative collective.
Inspiring and useful! Thanks, Robin!
Thanks for stopping by to read it, dear Rea!